Author Topic: Google have BANNED T35 !!! (Read 1484 times)

wetwetwet · « **on:** August 09, 2011, 06:10:24 AM »

It looks like Google have just blacklisted T35.

Webmaster Tools confirms for any T35 member site that "This site may be in violation of Google's quality guidelines."

At first I thought it was just me, but a search for site:t35.com returns zero results.

T35 need to contact Google about this urgently.

« **on:** August 09, 2011, 06:10:24 AM »

wetwetwet · « **Reply #1 on:** August 12, 2011, 06:41:18 AM »

72 hours after I report this and not a single word from T35

Could you at least acknowledge that:
a) You understand what it is I'm reporting.
b) You understand that it affects T35's own site, and all free hosting member sites.
c) You're attempting to get something done about it.

I appreciate how difficult it probably is to get any kind of sensible dialogue going with Google these days.

Alex Melen · « **Reply #2 on:** August 12, 2011, 10:06:54 PM »

We've reported the issue to google. They have escalated it internally and we should hear back soon.

kasili73 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2011, 02:29:03 AM »

I'm also concerned for the banning, and i think it's not only google that banned t35, even yahoo. I hoped google and yahoo work it our immediately with the coordination of t35 people.

To add some info, even facebook blocked the t35 sites, I've reported this months ago, but still fb blocks my site (the last time I checked). As a remedy, I just replaced the dot (.) with asterisk (*) in order to display the website link.

Thank you and more power!

wetwetwet · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2011, 07:13:44 AM »

kasili73: I see no indication at all that Yahoo have blocked T35. Sites from T35, including the T35 main site and free hosting member sites, all show up in search results. What makes you think Yahoo is involved here?

wetwetwet · « **Reply #5 on:** August 13, 2011, 07:24:08 AM »

Quote from: Alex Melen on August 12, 2011, 10:06:54 PM

We've reported the issue to google. They have escalated it internally and we should hear back soon.

I hope they provide you with an explanation.

If this blocking was due to the regular creation of phishing sites on T35 then I think someone at Google needs some retraining with a clue-by-four. I hope you've made it abundantly clear to them that site addresses which are subdomains of t35.com are created outwith of your control by your members and you always shut down criminal sites that are reported to your abuse address. Google themselves don't police their own networks (see YouTube) but rely on abuse reports to get stuff taken down, so they should accept the same policy for T35.

kasili73 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 13, 2011, 10:07:02 AM »

Quote from: wetwetwet on August 13, 2011, 07:13:44 AM

kasili73: I see no indication at all that Yahoo have blocked T35. Sites from T35, including the T35 main site and free hosting member sites, all show up in search results. What makes you think Yahoo is involved here?

When I searched my site, cp2pc on yahoo, there's zero result. Before, my site used to be number on that search. A while ago, I've searched "site: t35.com" on yahoo, there's zero result on t35.com sites.

We hoped t35 people addressed these problems asap.

wetwetwet · « **Reply #7 on:** August 13, 2011, 10:25:04 AM »

Quote from: kasili73 on August 13, 2011, 10:07:02 AM

When I searched my site, cp2pc on yahoo, there's zero result. Before, my site used to be number on that search. A while ago, I've searched "site: t35.com" on yahoo, there's zero result on t35.com sites.

I don't get zero results.

When I search cp2pc.t35.com on yahoo.com you show up as first result.
When I search "luzon radio" on yahoo.com you show up as 79th result.

No sign of yahoo blocking t35 to me. Your site might not be ranking very high, but that's probably more to do with your site and a lack of inbound links. I have a t35 hosted site that shows up in the top ten results for relevent keywords, so I doubt Yahoo are penalising t35 in any way.

kasili73 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 13, 2011, 10:45:24 AM »

Quote from: wetwetwet on August 13, 2011, 10:25:04 AM

Quote from: kasili73 on August 13, 2011, 10:07:02 AM
When I searched my site, cp2pc on yahoo, there's zero result. Before, my site used to be number on that search. A while ago, I've searched "site: t35.com" on yahoo, there's zero result on t35.com sites.

I don't get zero results.

When I search cp2pc.t35.com on yahoo.com you show up as first result.
When I search "luzon radio" on yahoo.com you show up as 79th result.

No sign of yahoo blocking t35 to me. Your site might not be ranking very high, but that's probably more to do with your site and a lack of inbound links. I have a t35 hosted site that shows up in the top ten results for relevent keywords, so I doubt Yahoo are penalising t35 in any way.

okay, got same results like you do. thanks for the observations, need more time for the improvement of my site to be on top ten.

anyway, still we didn't hear the updates from t35 people. do your site is also down right now?

wetwetwet · « **Reply #9 on:** August 13, 2011, 10:52:41 AM »

Quote from: kasili73 on August 13, 2011, 10:45:24 AM

anyway, still we didn't hear the updates from t35 people. do your site is also down right now?

Yes, all T35 free hosting sites are down just now.

Alex Melen · « **Reply #10 on:** August 14, 2011, 12:05:48 PM »

Quote from: wetwetwet on August 13, 2011, 07:24:08 AM

Quote from: Alex Melen on August 12, 2011, 10:06:54 PM
We've reported the issue to google. They have escalated it internally and we should hear back soon.

I hope they provide you with an explanation.

If this blocking was due to the regular creation of phishing sites on T35 then I think someone at Google needs some retraining with a clue-by-four. I hope you've made it abundantly clear to them that site addresses which are subdomains of t35.com are created outwith of your control by your members and you always shut down criminal sites that are reported to your abuse address. Google themselves don't police their own networks (see YouTube) but rely on abuse reports to get stuff taken down, so they should accept the same policy for T35.

They haven't provided a reason yet, but we're hoping it gets resolved soon.

kasili73 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 15, 2011, 10:35:43 PM »

any updates on google banning? thanks

kasili73 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 15, 2011, 10:49:00 PM »

wetwetwet: have you submitted a reconsideration request to google? is there a response from them?

thanks!

wetwetwet · « **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2011, 02:46:50 AM »

Quote from: kasili73 on August 15, 2011, 10:49:00 PM

wetwetwet: have you submitted a reconsideration request to google? is there a response from them?

No I haven't. This block applies to every T35 free site, so there's little point having some clueless admin at Google pour over my site with a fine tooth comb when it's not my site that triggered the block. I did try to find an email address to notify them of how inappropriate it is to block all these sites because of a few miscreants, but Google doesn't seem to be a particularly contact-friendly company.

One week on, the question is: has t35 had any kind of reply from them?

kasili73 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 17, 2011, 01:38:40 AM »

no response yet? i'm sure our sites are affected tremendously by the google banning... hope, we'll hear some good news asap.

thanks!

Alex Melen · « **Reply #15 on:** August 17, 2011, 07:31:02 PM »

Google hasn't responded yet. We have reached out to them numerous times and have submitted numerous reconsideration requests.

kasili73 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 18, 2011, 04:15:31 AM »

Based on experience, is there a chance that google will consider the appeal and lift the ban?

Thank you

Alex Melen · « **Reply #17 on:** August 19, 2011, 10:18:38 AM »

I've seen them un-ban sites before - but it usually takes 1.5 weeks. Only time will tell what they do.

wetwetwet · « **Reply #18 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:15:50 AM »

Two weeks on and this isn't looking good for T35.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/06/google_cans_11m_dot_co_dot_cc_sites/

http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2011/06/protecting-users-from-malware-hosted-on.html

Google have banned all .co.cc domains, despite many of them probably being good sites, because it considers the domain to be a "spammy freehost" which they will ban "if we see a very large fraction of sites on a specific freehost are spammy or low-quality".

If that's also the reason that T35 freehosting is currently blocked by Google then T35 might need to take a more proactive approach in removing the vast amount of junk sites it hosts (phishing, doorways, cloaking, keyword-infested-honeypots, affiliates with no new content, etc.) rather than just removing reported phishing sites, if it is to stand any chance of reversing the block.

If the block is going to continue indefinitely then I suspect a large proportion of the legitimate users around here will feel there is no choice but to move elsewhere

Alex Melen · « **Reply #19 on:** August 22, 2011, 04:25:01 PM »

We've moved member sites to .t35.me (which is not banned by google) while we work on resolving this issue with them.

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