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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2011, 05:01:52 PM »
We've moved member sites to .t35.me (which is not banned by google) while we work on resolving this issue with them.

Yikes!

Why do I get the feeling that move has the potential to end very badly on so many levels... not least of all when Googlebot (and the other search engine crawlers) start reading all those 301s.

I assume if you ever get things sorted with Google and we resort to t35.com that you will maintain an active 301 from *.t35.me back to *.t35.com for some considerable time given how many t35.me addresses may have been indexed or bookmarked by that time.

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2011, 05:01:52 PM »

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2011, 05:15:41 PM »
Yes, we'll 301 back when t35.com is un-banned. We'll see how it all pans out. At this point, google is not being very helpful with this situation.

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2011, 06:17:14 PM »
google has banned t35.me also  :mad:

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2011, 06:59:27 PM »
At this point, google is not being very helpful with this situation.

Does "not being very helpful" mean they haven't even responded to formally advise you of why the block is in place? or does it mean they have informed you and are insisting on their hard-line stance on "spammy freehost domains" ?

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2011, 07:03:20 PM »
They have said numerous times that the block would be removed and haven't confirmed that the block had anything to do with being a free host.

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2011, 07:13:51 PM »
Well the first part of that sounds promising, although the second part seems to suggest they haven't informed you at all why the block was put there in the first place?

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2011, 08:18:05 PM »
Correct. We haven't heard much in terms of reasoning. I'll keep you guys updated as I hear anything else. In the mean time, I'm hoping the move to t35.me helps.

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2011, 08:26:54 PM »
Google warns user when surfing the *t35.me site, "Warning: Suspected phising site!"

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2011, 03:32:06 AM »
Is Opera connected to Google?

When visiting subdomains of t35.com/t35.me
Quote from: Opera 11.50
Fraud Warning

This site has been reported as fraudulent. Exchanging sensitive or confidential information with this site could put you at risk for identity theft and/or financial fraud.

Opera Software strongly discourages visiting this page.

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2011, 01:07:56 PM »
I'm getting fed up with this.

The t35.com domain is blocked by google, and t35.me undoubtedly soon will be. Both are blacklisted in various public lists (e.g. Netcraft) used by the anti-phishing/anti-fraud tools in popular browsers such as Chrome, Firefox and Opera. Even if T35 get themselves off the blacklist this time, the core problem is going to continue and the reputation of T35 is forever going to be questioned and dissed online until the phishing is completely eliminated. These days the script kiddies are even sharing guides online how to create a phishing site specifically on hosts like T35, so they don't even need any expertise. The problem is getting worse, not better.

Alex, is it not time to bite the bullet and add "fopen" to php's disable_functions, as many other free hosting companies have already done?

I figure the free hosting users are in one of three categories.
  • Those who never use php, and would be unaffected by this change. I suspect the majority of free hosting users are in this category since most of them probably don't have any php knowledge anyway. It is perfectly possible to create great websites without a single line of server-side php, and you can still link to third-party script-based components like statcounters, guestbooks, shoutboxes, etc.
  • Those who use the principle functions of php to generate html on the fly, but who do not need to use disk specific functions, and would also be unaffected by this change. Of those who do use php, this probably accounts for the majority.
  • Those who use php's disk functions (directly, or indirectly via directly-installed third-party components) and genuinely require fopen (for non-phishing purposes!).
I suspect a minority of the free users on T35 fall into the last category, and I know they won't like my suggestion, but something has to be done about this ongoing problem and to me the simple fact is that most free hosts disable fopen now. If you genuinely need it, switch to paid hosting. (Perhaps T35 might even be able to offer them a one-off $25 payment option upon request to move them to a different apache/server where they can use fopen, rather than forcing them into full paid hosting.)

Acknowledging there is a phishing problem and blocking fopen would probably go a long way to convincing the likes of Google that you are taking the problem seriously and have taken a definitive step to eliminate the problem and clean up T35.

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2011, 01:29:14 PM »
fopen is already disabled. Most of the abuse sites that have been reported to us by google aren't phishing related. Google's issue seems to be with spammy site, rather than phishing site. They are taking the liberty of determining themselves which sites they consider "spammy".

The only reason t35.me is flagged is because google mistakenly flagged the entire domain (instead of just the subdomain of a single user). We've already talked to them about this and it should be fixed shortly.

We're still working on resolving the issues discussed in this thread. In the mean time, as always, we recommend any crucial and business site use a paid hosting service (ours or any other companies). Free hosting isn't intended for crucial sites, business's, etc..

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2011, 05:02:18 PM »
fopen is disabled? Are you sure about that?

How are sites still phishing then?

Sites like: http://yatyat.t35.me/
Phishing and storing the results at: http://yatyat.t35.me/lol.txt

If it's not fopen then whatever it is I suggest you disable it because until you do the phishing and problems will continue.

Oh, and .t35.me is still blocked by Opera, who are nothing to do with Google. They're using a list from netcraft and you're on it!

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2011, 02:38:16 AM »

Mozilla and Chrome fixed the issue but I still have error in opera...here is error message:

Fraud Warning
This site has been reported as fraudulent. Exchanging sensitive or confidential information with this site could put you at risk for identity theft and/or financial fraud.


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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2011, 09:58:22 AM »
Opera uses the same service as mozilla but are just slower to update database sources. t35.me is NOT listed in netcraft: http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?restriction=site+contains&host=t35.me&lookup=wait..&position=limited

http://yatyat.t35.me/ was using a different php function (not fopen) which has been disabled since 2 days ago.

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2011, 09:48:53 PM »
any updates? thanks

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2011, 11:36:56 PM »
Nothing yet. It looks like .t35.me isn't being banned though. We've implemented new guidelines and restrictions which seemed to have helped.

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Re: Google have BANNED T35 !!!
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2011, 03:27:34 PM »
One month on: are we any nearer to getting *.t35.com back to normal?