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Topic: STOP with your advertisement functions.  (Read 5507 times)
« on: September 26, 2007, 08:42:42 PM »
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I'm really sorry, but I desperately need to tell you this.

You claim that your only advertisements are simply static images and text advertisements. I can live with that. However, some of your advertisements include annoying background sound and music. Not only that, but on some occasions, your ads are actually my website forwarded to another website. Some of these places are unsafe, and I DON'T need the risk of people coming upon viruses because they were redirected from my site. This has really happened on my site, and I know it for a fact. I love your service, but if you don't resolve these advertisement issues quickly, I may switch to other hosts. I cannot stand these sound/redirecting advertisements any longer.

I do have a suggestion. You could place another image right beside your tiny T35 logo at the bottom of the page. When users click it, they are directed to a page with advertisement lists. Please replace your sound/redirecting advertisement functions with this idea. It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2007, 10:27:43 PM »
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Our advertisements are layered pop-ups. We don't make them. They are provided by our advertisers. Unfortunately having a small logo isn't enough to pay the tens of thousands of dollars of server and bandwidth fees. If the ads are that annoying, you can always pay $5/mo to get a paid hosting account without them...
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 04:34:42 PM »
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Buy paid hosting.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2007, 05:50:05 AM »
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this is always a suggestion. you may need to listen to improve. im also agreeing. ads are getting bigger and complicating that become annoying. the ads are also ruining some of my php scripts. and the ads sometimes ruin site layout, too. the tiny t35 logo makes some table strange.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2007, 10:03:52 AM »
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The pop-up ads are just not something we control.. The ad industry is changing and moving towards more dynamic and larger layered ads. The tiny t35 logo is actually something we DO control, but its automatically put before the end of the body. Can you show me an example of a table it's messing up?
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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2007, 12:08:22 AM »
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This is like a forum and is hosted in T35.
http://essor.t35.com/zboard/view.php?id=a&page=1&page_num=20&select_arrange=headnum&desc=&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&keyword=&no=1

This is exactly the same and just is hosted in different place.
http://ncity.net/~ricky/zboard/view.php?id=c&page=1&page_num=20&select_arrange=headnum&desc=&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&keyword=&no=2&category=

As you can see, the link just above is the way it should look like where comments/reply are put.
In T35, partially screen about in comments/reply will repeat.

Another problem.
http://essor.t35.com/zboard/admin.php
http://ncity.net/~ricky/zboard/admin.php
Try login (admin/1234).

These problems all must be caused from either layered ads or the logo.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2007, 09:38:12 AM »
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I forwarded this to our tech team, but in general, the board seems to be doing file includes multiple times, including the same file over and over.. that's what's causing the house icon to repeat. You might want to try using a different forum script. As for the layered pop-up. I didn't see it causing too much of a problem.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2007, 09:53:15 AM »
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The forum works properly in different places.. just at t35 it doesn't work properly.
Also the login page. Doesn't have any problem in different web hosters.

And I don't want to have to use other forum script.  embarassed Please help!
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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2007, 11:17:27 AM »
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Well it won't work with any host that adds any code/ads to the web pages.. because the forum repeats pages over and over on a single page, the ad is loaded multiple times. Obviously on a host with no ads it will work fine. Still not the best way for a forum to operate..
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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2007, 03:29:41 AM »
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Then it's still the ads problem that causes it... If it's the ads problem, I believe then you can find an error/bug in the ads and fix it.

BTW, the error that redirects to 404 page from Login page is not happening anymore.
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ADDED: The problem was not only happening in these two. It also occurrs here after you logged in. (http://essor.t35.com/zboard/admin.php) and then http://essor.t35.com/zboard/admin_setup.php?exec=db_dump
It's about downloading a sql backup and the size became almost 10x bigger because of the bug that keeps reloading.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2007, 09:14:34 PM »
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I've looked at the codes where the error occurrs, and I've found out that the error that the page keeps reloading multiple times occurrs where the php function 'flush()' is written at. Maybe the server does not have the correct 'flush()' configuration?
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2007, 11:04:25 PM »
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flush() isn't configured in any special way.. you can run a simple phpinfo() to see all the server config's... but i don't think there is anything special/different about it. I just think the forum is reloading pages in a very strange way. For example PHPBB run by some members on our servers doesn't have that icon-repeated-everywhere problem. Unfortunately I don't think there is any practical way to modify our ad-code or your specific forum to solve the problem. I forwarded everything to our tech team who will take a look at it.. but i'm not sure how soon a solution can be found and how soon it would be implemented. I'll keep you posted.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2007, 11:05:48 PM »
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By the way, your admin and db_dump pages only had the icon load once (which is exactly what it should be doing)
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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2007, 11:43:50 PM »
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it's flush() that was causing the problem... (as far as i looked at the codes, and i confirmed it was flush(). )
i dont know much about it but something must be working strange with flush() or working differently than in other servers.

anyway, i wish you find solution soon. Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2007, 09:27:46 AM »
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I don't think there is anything specifically wrong with it.. the way the forum is made (to use flush() and others) is just not very efficient (it reloads/re-pulls pages over and over). If you try a free host that has banners on the pages it will make the forum even less usable. Never the less, we'll see if we can come up with something to fix it for your specific case...
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« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2007, 07:16:38 PM »
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I wish there was something that could be done. The ads are growing much worse. Perhaps you can do a sort of advertisement page by adding a link to that page like the little T35 picture. I myself wouldn't mind having another little pic on my website if it simply directed people to an advertisement section of your website.
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« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2007, 08:30:29 PM »
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We haven't changed advertisers in about 2 years. What's worse about them? if there is a specific advertiser , i can look into it. Try to take a screen shot of the ad if its something specific.
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« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2007, 08:46:16 PM »
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I wish there was something that could be done. The ads are growing much worse. Perhaps you can do a sort of advertisement page by adding a link to that page like the little T35 picture. I myself wouldn't mind having another little pic on my website if it simply directed people to an advertisement section of your website.

If you don't like it, you can always leave, or buy paid hosting for $5/month. The ads are there for a reason, to keep the service free.
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